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Lessons from Star Wars: Picking Your Fantasy Battles Wisely

May 04, 2026 by Karlissa Koop in Thoughts on Fantasy

By Jason Koop

(You can listen to the podcast version of this post: Episode 56)

 

Those who have been following this blog for awhile may remember that my favourite Star Wars stories have come from the TV shows.  Specifically the animated ones that Dave Filoni has worked on.  They include The Clone Wars, Rebels, The Bad Batch and the recently released Maul: Shadow Lord.

One recurring theme from these shows is: do the ends justify the means?

Yoda references this in an episode (which I will talk about later in this post) where he says: “How Jedi choose to win, the question is.”  And from that reflection I have learned lessons that I, hopefully, will apply to our podcast and blog.  I’m going to go over three different Star Wars animated episodes, how they ask this question, and the lessons I have learned from them.

Political episode, with nary a lightsaber in sight.  The Republic is firmly mired in a seemingly never-ending war with the Separatists, and the cost of the war is becoming more and more of a sticking point.  In fact, the Republic is already being pushed to the brink of economic ruin with how much of its resources it is pouring into the war effort.

And yet, many in the Galactic Senate are willing to pass a bill that will in essence throw exorbitant amounts of money at the problem and create more clone troopers.  While some, like Senators Padme Amidala and Bail Organa, are opposed to this approach, their protests are largely falling on deaf ears, as most in the Senate are focused simply on defeating the Separatists.

Discouraged, and wondering if fighting this bill is worth the struggle, Padme is encouraged and convicted by one or her aides, who reminds her that listening to her people and caring for them is why she was put into power.  And so, she sits down, takes a moment and truly talks with her aide, asking her how her family is doing.  How the war is affecting them.  And in that conversation, the truth comes out.

While the Senate debates and votes on how much it can justify spending in an attempt to defeat the Separatist army, it is the lower, middle and working class that is paying the cost of the war.  Power outages, lack of running water, schools being shut down, food becoming a scarcer commodity.  Padme convinces the Senate that if they continue to recklessly pursue greater military force at the expense of their people and their living conditions, they will lose the war, and the Separatists won’t need to fire a single blaster.

When we started Book-Bat, it was born from countless conversations that Karlissa and I had had about fantasy stories: their importance, what lessons we have learned from them, and how they have shaped us.  Looking back at a lot of our earlier episodes on the podcast, I noticed that I was – and still can be – very cynical and disparaging to a lot of fantasy and fantasy writers.  I remember particularly singling out Wayne Thomas Batson and Bryan Davis and various books of theirs.

I do believe that it is important to be able to look at things critically; to admit that books I previously enjoyed either aren’t as good as I had once thought or are no longer my cup of tea.  That being said, I got so caught up in the short-comings and failings of particularly “Christian” fantasy, that I allowed that to paint my view of fantasy as a whole.  I forgot fantasy’s virtues, the lessons it has taught me, and just its general capacity for goodness.

While I may still get critical of some fantasy stories – especially those claiming to be espousing Christian morals – I think it is of greater importance to not mindlessly lash out.  I need to remember why we started this podcast and for whom.  If I want others to find the richness that I believe can be found in fantasy, I cannot just present them with everything that is wrong with it.  And I need to be humble enough to admit when something doesn’t match my personal tastes.  A story can be good and not to my personal liking simultaneously.

Jedi Kanan Jaarus is growing increasingly apprehensive of his decision to train promising street thief Ezra Bridger.  Especially since Ezra recently used the dark side of the Force when he lashed out in anger at an Imperial attack.  And so, he takes Ezra to a hidden Jedi Temple on Lothal.

Ezra is tested by visions, which reveal his innermost fears.  Then he is contacted through the Force by Master Yoda.  And, in true Yoda fashion, he gets Ezra to decide why he wants to become a Jedi.  Is it for the power?  So he can have revenge on the Empire?

Ezra says he wants to become a Jedi so he can help others, rather than continue in his old life of looking out for only himself.  And he wants this because, when he sees Kanan and the rest of the crew of the Ghost helping others, it makes them feel truly alive.  And it is that feeling of being truly alive, having a noble, selfless purpose, that Ezra truly wants.

Yoda’s last line is one that still sticks with me:  “A Jedi, you might yet be.”

Why fantasy?  In part because I believe that fantasy gets a bad rep from a lot of people.  Particularly the conservative, Western-Evangelical culture I grew up with.  I grew up being taught that as I got older and became a man, I had to leave fantasy behind, because it had no place in “real life”.  To be mature is to give up all fantasy.

But is being a contrarian really a good reason to start discussions about fantasy?

There are other reasons, but if I had to try to pin down the real reason, it would be something like this:  Fantasy gives us a window to explore things in their truest form.

Real life has a way of mixing and muddying things to the point that it can be hard to distinguish what all is in the soup.  In fantasy we can explore things like love, sacrifice, self-worth, anger, shame, beauty, and heroism much deeper and with greater clarity.  Themes can be built up in intentional complexity or boiled down to their simplest essence.  And the lessons we learn through story and character have a way of sticking to our beings much longer than a long-winded theological discussion.

Kanan and Ezra are being hunted relentlessly by the Inquisitors, while being under the looming threat of Darth Vader.  Together with Ahsoka, they travel to the hidden Jedi temple on Lothal, seeking advice from Yoda.  While they are there, in true Jedi fashion, the temple itself tests them by confronting both Kanan and Ahsoka with their worst fears.

Meanwhile Ezra talks with Yoda once again.  He asks Yoda to tell him how to defeat Vader and his Inquisitors.  Yoda becomes somber and recounts to Ezra that the Jedi joined the Clone Wars in swiftness, so self-assured were they that this was the right decision.  And so, they were unaware as fear, anger and hate consumed them.  Ezra asks if it was wrong for the Jedi to fight, or for him to want to protect his friends?  Yoda admits that at least part of the reason why he fought for as long as he did, was because he was consumed by fear.

As a final question, Ezra asks Yoda how they are supposed to win if they don’t fight back.  “Win?” Yoda asks with some wry amusement, before he repeats the word much more somberly.  “How Jedi choose to win, the question is.”

Sometimes we can be so concerned with “being right” that we completely ignore how we go about it.  I know I am guilty of that, probably more than a few times on this podcast, even.

Karlissa has been endeavoring to introduce me to some new fantasy.  Suffice it to say that her success rate hasn’t been optimal.  And I have been guilty of being honest with my takes but not taking care with how I am honest.  This is where I am trying to grow.

Karlissa has theorized that I am very particular as to what I like and want in a good fantasy story, much like J.R.R. Tolkien, in fact.  However, while it is completely fair to say that the fantasy stories that Karlissa has been introducing me to are not my cup of tea, I need to learn how to say it best.

So there you have it, three lessons I have learned in a galaxy far far away.  And hopefully I will begin to apply them in a podcast a bit closer to you.  Thanks for reading, and may the fourth be with you, at least for today.

P.S.: Do you enjoy when we talk about things in pop culture, like Star Wars, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Spy x Family? Let us know in the comments – we really do appreciate your feedback.

May 04, 2026 /Karlissa Koop
star wars, themes, lessons from fantasy, growth, media musings, animation, Filoniverse, purpose, podcast
Thoughts on Fantasy
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How Spy x Family Helps My Marriage

November 03, 2025 by Karlissa Koop in Book Reviews, Fantasy Review, Thoughts on Fantasy

By Jason Koop

Let’s get this out of the way, I grew up in a western Evangelical culture.  As such, I was exposed to a lot of the common tropes in the 90s and 00s.  And with the goggles of retrospection on, I can only now start to recognize the waters I was swimming in.

One thing that was abundantly clear:  Fantasy was not for “good, Christian adults”!  It was only something for kids/teens to grow out of once they got older and “more mature”.  A placeholder, not something to hold onto into adulthood – unless you were using it to teach something to children or young teens.

Fantasy… For Grown-Up Christians?

 

Why, the very idea that any credible adult could have any positive, growing experience from reading stories about a blue hedgehog that runs at super-sonic speeds, spandex and caped crusaders fighting outsized villainy, or a hero with an ancient sword who smashes pottery to find gems?

Preposterous!  Utterly ridiculous!  Up surd!  No, no, no, NO!!!  Real, mature Christian adults can only be instructed with self-help adjacent, study type books.  Everyone knows that!

Well… okay, but why?  Do we lose something as we get older and need everything spelled out for us in order for it to sink in?  And why is it that a freakish number of these “lessons” imparted through many of these “study group” books are ever so quickly forgotten and never fondly remembered?

This year, Karlissa and I are celebrating our tenth anniversary.  And I’m sure it would come as no great surprise to anyone to find out that we have clashed; and still do.  As someone who grew up in Western Evangelical culture – but never really knew the waters I was swimming in – I am surprised at how easily I came up with the expected steps when our relationship struggles.

·         Talk to a pastor/church elder

·         Read a Christian marriage book

·         Listen to Christian marriage “experts” – podcasts, YouTube videos, TikTok, FaceBook, etc.

None of these are particularly appealing to me for a variety of reasons.  Being an introvert. Finding most “Christian” marriage advice to be pretty shallow and mostly a band-aid solution.

But then, I came across something that not only grabbed my attention, but has begun to transform how I see not only my marriage, but my whole family.  Spy x Family.

Not Your Average Spy Story

 

Written and drawn by Tatsuya Endo, this ongoing manga debuted in 2019.  And, despite Endo having been in the manga game since the year 2000, this was his first work to be published in English.  The premise is as follows…

In a Cold War-esque setting, a spy – code named “Twilight” – is tasked with getting close to reclusive politician Donovan Desmond to hopefully prevent a nuclear war between rival nations Westalis and Ostania.  However, the only way to do so is through his son Damian, and the best way to do so is through the private school that Damian attends.

Therefore, Twilight is tasked with creating his own “family”.  In turn he adopts little girl Anya and marries Yor to be his daughter and wife, respectively.  However, he keeps them all in the dark that he is a spy on a mission. 

Unbeknownst to him, though, both Anya and Yor are keeping secrets from him as well.  Anya is a telepath, and Yor is an assassin.  And thus, all three are trying to play the part of a happy family while keeping significant secrets from each other.

Okay, I know this sounds completely ridiculous.  But really, I think it is all a front for addressing real family life and struggles.

Twilight (going by Loid Forger), is very much a dad.  Equal parts composed, family leader, overworked and worrying that he isn’t doing well as a husband or father – thus compromising his cover – and I find him so relatable.  He works hard, tries to make Anya study to do well in school, and constantly tries to affirm and encourage Yor as a wife, mother and person.

Yor is equal parts deadly competent and completely clueless.  On one hand, her strength, love and resolve enabled her to raise her brother (Yuri) when they were children and has made her into a pillar of comfort and safety to Anya.  On the other hand, her complete lack of cooking skills and social competence often leaves her on the wrong side of cultural expectations.

Anya is childishly naïve, yet somehow more in touch with things than either of her parents.  Because of her telepathy, she not only knows both of their secrets, but picks up on struggles that both try to keep hidden from her.  And yet, she is constantly afraid that if everyone knew each others’ secrets, it would destroy this family and the stability that she desperately needs.

And the story plays this out so superbly.  Amid all the espionage, assassinations, and classroom drama is a family that is trying to find out how to function as a unit, despite their differences and secrets they can’t/won’t tell each other.

Lessons Learned

 

Now, how has this helped me in my marriage and family life?  This all seems a little too outlandish, you might say, to be even remotely helpful.  However, in this story I have been shown things that stick with me much more than simply being told “do this/do that”.  Lessons like:

·         What sticks with the child is family experiences much more than nice toys/presents

·         While adults aren’t culturally allowed to ask for affirmation, they still need it

·         While we are individuals, we are at our best when we sacrifice for others

·         Miscommunication happens, but it needs to be worked through

·         Raising a healthy child is much more involved than simply checking of a list of needs

And these are all told through entertaining and wildly unrealistic stories that ensure that the lessons will likely linger with me that much longer.

Maybe all of this means that I am not a proper, mature, Christian adult.  But I would like to think that stories like Spy x Family that can teach us something, perhaps in an unexpected way, that will then stay with us much longer than a lecture or spiritualized self-help book.

November 03, 2025 /Karlissa Koop
Spy x Family, storytelling, marriage, media musings, anime, manga
Book Reviews, Fantasy Review, Thoughts on Fantasy
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