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Lessons from Star Wars: Picking Your Fantasy Battles Wisely

May 04, 2026 by Karlissa Koop in Thoughts on Fantasy

By Jason Koop

(You can listen to the podcast version of this post: Episode 56)

 

Those who have been following this blog for awhile may remember that my favourite Star Wars stories have come from the TV shows.  Specifically the animated ones that Dave Filoni has worked on.  They include The Clone Wars, Rebels, The Bad Batch and the recently released Maul: Shadow Lord.

One recurring theme from these shows is: do the ends justify the means?

Yoda references this in an episode (which I will talk about later in this post) where he says: “How Jedi choose to win, the question is.”  And from that reflection I have learned lessons that I, hopefully, will apply to our podcast and blog.  I’m going to go over three different Star Wars animated episodes, how they ask this question, and the lessons I have learned from them.

Political episode, with nary a lightsaber in sight.  The Republic is firmly mired in a seemingly never-ending war with the Separatists, and the cost of the war is becoming more and more of a sticking point.  In fact, the Republic is already being pushed to the brink of economic ruin with how much of its resources it is pouring into the war effort.

And yet, many in the Galactic Senate are willing to pass a bill that will in essence throw exorbitant amounts of money at the problem and create more clone troopers.  While some, like Senators Padme Amidala and Bail Organa, are opposed to this approach, their protests are largely falling on deaf ears, as most in the Senate are focused simply on defeating the Separatists.

Discouraged, and wondering if fighting this bill is worth the struggle, Padme is encouraged and convicted by one or her aides, who reminds her that listening to her people and caring for them is why she was put into power.  And so, she sits down, takes a moment and truly talks with her aide, asking her how her family is doing.  How the war is affecting them.  And in that conversation, the truth comes out.

While the Senate debates and votes on how much it can justify spending in an attempt to defeat the Separatist army, it is the lower, middle and working class that is paying the cost of the war.  Power outages, lack of running water, schools being shut down, food becoming a scarcer commodity.  Padme convinces the Senate that if they continue to recklessly pursue greater military force at the expense of their people and their living conditions, they will lose the war, and the Separatists won’t need to fire a single blaster.

When we started Book-Bat, it was born from countless conversations that Karlissa and I had had about fantasy stories: their importance, what lessons we have learned from them, and how they have shaped us.  Looking back at a lot of our earlier episodes on the podcast, I noticed that I was – and still can be – very cynical and disparaging to a lot of fantasy and fantasy writers.  I remember particularly singling out Wayne Thomas Batson and Bryan Davis and various books of theirs.

I do believe that it is important to be able to look at things critically; to admit that books I previously enjoyed either aren’t as good as I had once thought or are no longer my cup of tea.  That being said, I got so caught up in the short-comings and failings of particularly “Christian” fantasy, that I allowed that to paint my view of fantasy as a whole.  I forgot fantasy’s virtues, the lessons it has taught me, and just its general capacity for goodness.

While I may still get critical of some fantasy stories – especially those claiming to be espousing Christian morals – I think it is of greater importance to not mindlessly lash out.  I need to remember why we started this podcast and for whom.  If I want others to find the richness that I believe can be found in fantasy, I cannot just present them with everything that is wrong with it.  And I need to be humble enough to admit when something doesn’t match my personal tastes.  A story can be good and not to my personal liking simultaneously.

Jedi Kanan Jaarus is growing increasingly apprehensive of his decision to train promising street thief Ezra Bridger.  Especially since Ezra recently used the dark side of the Force when he lashed out in anger at an Imperial attack.  And so, he takes Ezra to a hidden Jedi Temple on Lothal.

Ezra is tested by visions, which reveal his innermost fears.  Then he is contacted through the Force by Master Yoda.  And, in true Yoda fashion, he gets Ezra to decide why he wants to become a Jedi.  Is it for the power?  So he can have revenge on the Empire?

Ezra says he wants to become a Jedi so he can help others, rather than continue in his old life of looking out for only himself.  And he wants this because, when he sees Kanan and the rest of the crew of the Ghost helping others, it makes them feel truly alive.  And it is that feeling of being truly alive, having a noble, selfless purpose, that Ezra truly wants.

Yoda’s last line is one that still sticks with me:  “A Jedi, you might yet be.”

Why fantasy?  In part because I believe that fantasy gets a bad rep from a lot of people.  Particularly the conservative, Western-Evangelical culture I grew up with.  I grew up being taught that as I got older and became a man, I had to leave fantasy behind, because it had no place in “real life”.  To be mature is to give up all fantasy.

But is being a contrarian really a good reason to start discussions about fantasy?

There are other reasons, but if I had to try to pin down the real reason, it would be something like this:  Fantasy gives us a window to explore things in their truest form.

Real life has a way of mixing and muddying things to the point that it can be hard to distinguish what all is in the soup.  In fantasy we can explore things like love, sacrifice, self-worth, anger, shame, beauty, and heroism much deeper and with greater clarity.  Themes can be built up in intentional complexity or boiled down to their simplest essence.  And the lessons we learn through story and character have a way of sticking to our beings much longer than a long-winded theological discussion.

Kanan and Ezra are being hunted relentlessly by the Inquisitors, while being under the looming threat of Darth Vader.  Together with Ahsoka, they travel to the hidden Jedi temple on Lothal, seeking advice from Yoda.  While they are there, in true Jedi fashion, the temple itself tests them by confronting both Kanan and Ahsoka with their worst fears.

Meanwhile Ezra talks with Yoda once again.  He asks Yoda to tell him how to defeat Vader and his Inquisitors.  Yoda becomes somber and recounts to Ezra that the Jedi joined the Clone Wars in swiftness, so self-assured were they that this was the right decision.  And so, they were unaware as fear, anger and hate consumed them.  Ezra asks if it was wrong for the Jedi to fight, or for him to want to protect his friends?  Yoda admits that at least part of the reason why he fought for as long as he did, was because he was consumed by fear.

As a final question, Ezra asks Yoda how they are supposed to win if they don’t fight back.  “Win?” Yoda asks with some wry amusement, before he repeats the word much more somberly.  “How Jedi choose to win, the question is.”

Sometimes we can be so concerned with “being right” that we completely ignore how we go about it.  I know I am guilty of that, probably more than a few times on this podcast, even.

Karlissa has been endeavoring to introduce me to some new fantasy.  Suffice it to say that her success rate hasn’t been optimal.  And I have been guilty of being honest with my takes but not taking care with how I am honest.  This is where I am trying to grow.

Karlissa has theorized that I am very particular as to what I like and want in a good fantasy story, much like J.R.R. Tolkien, in fact.  However, while it is completely fair to say that the fantasy stories that Karlissa has been introducing me to are not my cup of tea, I need to learn how to say it best.

So there you have it, three lessons I have learned in a galaxy far far away.  And hopefully I will begin to apply them in a podcast a bit closer to you.  Thanks for reading, and may the fourth be with you, at least for today.

P.S.: Do you enjoy when we talk about things in pop culture, like Star Wars, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Spy x Family? Let us know in the comments – we really do appreciate your feedback.

May 04, 2026 /Karlissa Koop
star wars, themes, lessons from fantasy, growth, media musings, animation, Filoniverse, purpose, podcast
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30 Episodes Later!

June 03, 2024 by Karlissa Koop in Thoughts on Fantasy

The Book-Bat podcast has reached 30 episodes, with the latest being a bonus episode announcing the release of Davy Jones’ Aquarium!

Jason and Karlissa have been discussing Christian fantasy books and the wider fantasy landscape, from maturity in fantasy, to why they love fantasy, and their favourite fantasy characters.

Karlissa taught Jason ten fun facts about classic authors CS Lewis, JRR Tolkien, and George MacDonald.

And Jason brought to the table some of his musings and questions. What are the pros and cons of the Christian fantasy market? Which is better: aspirational characters or relatable characters? Have we lost the magic of friendship stories?

Also: “Words matter, people!” What are Mary Sue characters, and where did that term come from?

Many conversations have been planned for the future, so be sure to subscribe to the Book-Bat podcast on Apple Podcasts (iTunes) or Spotify to follow along!

Do you have any topics, books, authors, or shows you’d like to hear discussed? Write a comment on this blog post, or on one of our podcast episodes, or email us at connect@book-bat.com! We’d love to hear from you!

June 03, 2024 /Karlissa Koop
podcast, fantasy genre, Christian fantasy, character development, books, fiction, classics, CS Lewis, George MacDonald, JRR Tolkien, Davy Jones' Aquarium
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Our Podcast!

July 20, 2023 by Karlissa Koop in Sneak Peaks

Want to hear some fun conversations about all things fantasy books? Listen to the Book-Bat podcast, here to help you navigate the world of Christian fantasy!

Since February 2023, Jason and I have been releasing podcast episodes the second and fourth Thursday of each month. Our focus is Christian fantasy books, though we also discuss fantasy in general. Each episode is approximately between 10 and 40 minutes long. Recently, we reached an early milestone in posting our tenth episode!

We began by introducing ourselves and our definition of Christian fantasy.

Twice we’ve done episodes about Christian authors from history: one on CS Lewis, author of the popular Narnia series; and one on George MacDonald, an early pioneer of the fantasy genre.

Other educational episodes include a discussion on manga and graphic novels, and one about the origins of popular fantasy creatures.

We’ve given tips on where to find fantasy and which underrated books are worth reading. And we’ve talked about magic in fantasy, and answered random questions from a jar in parts one and two.

We’re always on the lookout for more topics to discuss; so feel free to send us your questions about fantasy, or recommend books and conversation starters!

July 20, 2023 /Karlissa Koop
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Where can I find fantasy?

June 15, 2023 by Karlissa Koop in Thoughts on Fantasy

Written by Jason Koop.

Here at Book-Bat, you’ve probably noticed that we focus a lot on fantasy in books.  In fact, you can find evidence of this in our name and our podcast, which is mostly about Christian fantasy books.

I’ve noticed that in our podcast, we’ve done a lot to espouse the positive traits of fantasy, and dispensed facts about some of its more historical writers.  But one thing that we haven’t devoted much (if any) time to is answering the question:

#1  Where can I find fantasy?

#2  What is “good” fantasy?  And how do I find it?!?

Ah yes, all very good questions.  And the answer is…  There is no one size-fits-all answer.  But rest assured, my dear reader, that I – Jason Koop the first – shall take upon the endeavor to provide you with some points to getting started.

On this blog post, I’ll take a crack at that first question: Where can I find fantasy?

The first places to start are – while quite obvious – surprisingly effective if you give them a chance. 

The library.  Whether your local public, church or school’s, these provide the excellent opportunity to “test out” many different types of stories and authors with no monetary cost (unless you get hit with those late fees, which feel worse when accompanied by the librarian’s look of disapproval).  Let’s go through those three briefly.

Your school’s library has the obvious perks of the books being aimed at your age group (assuming you’re still in school, of course).  Having it unavailable during the summer can be a downer, depending on how you plan to spend those hotter months.

The church library comes with the obvious perk that it is more likely to have something that has overtly (or maybe more subtle) Christian themes and tones.  Selection may be limited, though, and last I checked, most church’s aren’t into the whole inter-library loan shtick.  So you really are at the mercy of your church’s librarian (shout-out to Karlissa for going above and beyond to greatly improve this in my church).  Availability might be limited to days and times of service, so spontaneity in just browsing is greatly reduced.

And finally, your public library is a great – and often underappreciated – resource.  Not only will it likely have the greatest selection immediately available, but many do participate in inter-library loans, so you can still get your hands on a book that they don’t have.  The biggest downside is often the size of selection.  Quite the opposite of not having enough, often there’s too much, to the point where it can be overwhelming just to pick something.

But say you’re not really into the whole “borrowing” thing.  Especially the aspect of being expected to return it within a limited window.  What about those of us who like to have books to own and do with as we please?  To take our time with – and possibly place the book in positions of risk – and to take on all those creases, nicks and such that they accumulate with age.

Well, let’s turn the proverbial page to… bookstores!

Another more obvious one, but one we tend to easily overlook in today’s age of ordering via the internet.  I mean, why bother going to an actual bookstore when we can just find whatever we want online and order it in through some outlet like Amazon?  Ah, my friend, while the internet is indeed a wondrous and powerful thing, there are some things that it simply cannot replicate.  Such as actually seeing books in a physical space.  Seeing something that strikes your fancy.  Or maybe being taken in by an amazing book binding (it does happen).  Whether Christian, mainstream or even thrift, I find physical bookstores can breed a sense of discovery sadly lacking in the online-verse.

Okay, now that we’ve knocked out some of the obvious ones, let’s quickly fire through some other options:

Free book stands – I’ve made it a habit to peruse them whenever I come across one.

Garage/yard sales – The lottery pick of all; you never know when you might get lucky.

Your friends’ shelves – Weigh the risks before raiding, a damaged book can do even more to the relationship!

I’m sure there are other options, and I’ll leave it for you to mention them in the comments below! Next week, I’ll tackle the question: What is good fantasy?

June 15, 2023 /Karlissa Koop
fantasy genre, finding books, Christian fantasy, podcast
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Writing Update May 2023

May 18, 2023 by Karlissa Koop in Sneak Peaks

Written by Karlissa J.

I currently have two books in the works: a fantasy story, and a non-fiction book about fantasy!

The fantasy story is Davy Jones’ Aquarium: a sweet coming-of-age story about a six-foot-tall guy who swallows raw fish fillets and thinks dolphins are demonic.

I finished doing some rewrites in Davy Jones’ Aquarium, and am just reviewing this draft before finding a professional editor.

The non-fiction book is called Christian Fantasy 101, and it’s about… well, the core of Christian fantasy, including significant books and authors!

I’m getting further on research, which has led to some changes to my plans for the book. I’ve decided to focus in on four Christian authors that have shaped fantasy: George MacDonald, J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, and Madeleine L’Engle.

You can hear more about fantasy books and my research on our podcast: the Book-Bat podcast!

May 18, 2023 /Karlissa Koop
merman, writing, books, Christian fantasy, fantasy genre, podcast
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Welcome to Book-Bat

January 02, 2023 by Karlissa Koop in Sneak Peaks

Hi everyone: this is Karlissa J!

We’ve been hard at work rebranding the website from Karlissa J to Book-Bat. The goal is to add more opportunities for creative exploration and co-creation.

As part of this process, I’ll be going through all my past blog posts (over 130 of them!), reposting, editing, or deleting them as needed. Future blog posts will focus around book reviews, fantasy musings, my authoring and librarian updates, and the like - though I do have some design ideas that may pop up every now and then!

We also have an all-new podcast in the works! We sent out a sample podcast episode to a few testers for feedback, and appreciated their insight and excitement. The Book-Bat podcast should be up and running soon!

January 02, 2023 /Karlissa Koop
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Five Fall Updates 2022

October 17, 2022 by Karlissa Koop in Sneak Peaks

I have five projects in the works… and here’s what they are!

After completing the rough draft of Davy Jones’ Aquarium, I set to work on early reviewing and editing - and discovered there’s a lot more I could have done to explore the world, and better ways of approaching certain storytelling aspects. This editing and rewriting will take at least a few months, but I’m enjoying the opportunity to re-explore this tale!

I’m planning on ‘rebranding’ to BookBat. This will allow me better marketing for joint ventures with other creatives (like my husband!) and make advertising smoother if I decide to write under more than one author name. As part of this rebranding, I aim to move my website to www.bookbat.com. Be on the lookout for news of when the changeover will occur so you won’t miss what’s in store!

I am in the process of researching for a nonfiction book, Christian Fantasy 101. This will be a guide to fantasy books written by and (largely) for Christians, exploring the authors, books, worlds, and concepts that have impacted and continue to impact the genre! You can keep up with my research quest on GoodReads by following Karlissa J, or see my occasional updates on FaceBook!

My husband and I have been plotting a podcast! In some respects, it will be an expansion of my Christian Fantasy 101 journey, where we discuss the fantasy genre, how to find good books, and how to make sense of the Christian fantasy scene! More updates on that to come!

Though my focus is currently Davy Jones’ Aquarium and Christian Fantasy 101, October seems the appropriate time of year to put out a reminder that I am also working on a revised and expanded version of Kingdom of Bats! I plan to make it into a trilogy this time; and as I’ve grown as a writer, I hope to see this story grow in strength and charm!

October 17, 2022 /Karlissa Koop
update, autumn, fantasy genre, Christian fantasy, books, new books, merman, bat book, podcast
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